6. 2nd ed., (Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2011). I've been wondering about this line for a long time. Hello! Duncan is the son ofPatrick Mckie[unknownconfidence] Patrick is the son of James McKie [unknown confidence] My great grandmother had other documents, mostly handwritten as well, the roof fell in during a rainstorm and destroyed it all. Turi King, professor of genetics at the University of Leicester, has researched Richard III and says there are "literally millions" of people alive now who are related to the immediate family of this 15th-Century sovereign. I want to give this some time and thought as to the proper way to present this WikItree. In 1369, Queen Philip, beloved among the people and among the courtiers, died, to whose opinion the King Henry is the son ofHenry Percy KG[unknownconfidence] 20. His son, Richard, who was aged 9 years became heir to the throne. 5. It is not in wikitree, which shows the earliest common ancestor at King John. Feeling more Valiant? Younger gentry sons who received no inheritance who didn't become merchants or other professionals and moved away would take over the copyhold of a farm and/or worked as household servants, which would explain a baptism record for Clifton/Rock Savage. 11. Thomas is the son ofNancy (Stubblefield) Stroud[unknownconfidence] Henry Stevens Jr. John is the son of Katherine (Peck) Lake 15. Nancy is the daughter ofBenjamin Knox[unknownconfidence] 9. 7. Has anyone verified this? 18. Isabella is the daughter ofPatrick Bruce[unknownconfidence] 9. Many of us will have shared ancestors. Richard is the son of John Lake Margaret is the daughter ofGeorge Maxwell[unknownconfidence] 18. Myrna is the daughter of Albert Marshall Rigg John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England. 19. 8. I was able to find a verifiable fact in it . 2. On my mum I'm stuck on her great grand parents William and Isabella Grant. Elizabeth MORTIMER =1 Henry PERCY, Lord Percy ("Hotspur"). 21. The lineage was discovered through Rev. He has an extensive write-up by Anderson in the Great Migration Series. 16. Isabelle is the daughter ofCatherine (Neville) Mowbray[uncertain] male line descendants of Edward III via John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Henry Somerset, 5th Duke of Beaufort (17441803) are U152 xL2,Z36,Z56,M126,M160,Z192. 18. Terry Booth disputes this. Helen is the daughter ofIsabel (Gerrard) Langton[unknownconfidence] For John to be the father of Joan, I think he'd need to have married again after his wife died in 1462. Edward is the son of Ann Tomlinson [unknown confidence] IMO, Mary Fiennes should be disconnected from everyone, and have the "doubtful existence" badge applied to her. Mary is the daughter ofElizabeth (Mansfield) Wilson[unknownconfidence] but Vincent will have got it from the Visitation, so it's not independent. Hi Joe and thank you for the work you are doing on Edward III! 12. Thomas is the son ofThomas Fiennes KB[unknownconfidence] "We've all got the same number of ancestors, we just don't always know their names," she says. "We're all part of a giant family," says Prof King. Ralph's wife died in 1413. https://books.google.com/books?id=kjme027UeagC&pg=RA1-PA18, https://books.google.com/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA1-PA130. I would be slow to break this line and would be interested to hear what she has to say. Richard I is the son ofJoan (Beaufort) de Neville LG[confident] Mary is the daughter ofGregory Fiennes[confident] The entire early portion of this line is undocumented and is likely incorrect. Well harsh thing is I would like if someone could help find documents because all the information was from a family bible that Do esnt exist anymore. 8. In fact one thing about them is that there were lots of records. You are probably right Trudy. Anne is the daughter ofJames Wyatt[unknownconfidence] Henry is the son of Eli Dickinson [confident] Charles is the son of Henry (Somerset) Beaufort [unknown confidence] 2. James is the son ofJoan (Beaufort) Stewart[unknownconfidence] 7. 14. 10. 13. Using previous models of the numbers of descendants over the generations, he says as a broad estimate there could be two million people alive now related to Edward I. Because the records of most ordinary families would not stretch back that far, most people would not know about their link. 19. 13. He killed Nicholas Slanning of Bickleigh, fled to France until his father-in-law secured a pardon. Gregory is the son ofThomas Fiennes[unknownconfidence] 16. Youve made some fascinating discoveries. 1. He's interesting historically, but he's not really me. Obediah is the son ofSarah (Flanders) Clement[unknownconfidence] Surprising -- I'm descended from Edward III, through the Skinners, Talcotts, and Hollisters of Connecticut. It would also be nice if that app was a part of Wikitree as well. 8. Benjamin is the son ofBenjamin Wallingford[unknownconfidence] 22. "So I've been researching the Churchills for 40 years, so that came as a bit of a shock. Yes. Margaret Tudor (1489-1541) 4. 11. Great work! Charles, of Scituate and Plymouth, MA, Cooke, Elizabeth (Haynes), of Cambridge, MA, Davie, Humphrey, of Boston, MA, & Hartford, CT, Dudley, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury/Dedham, MA, Edwards, Agnes, of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Farwell, Olive (Welby), of Concord & Chelmsford, MA, Hackburne, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury & Dedham, MA, Harlakenden, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, MA, Harris, Agnes, of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Haugh, Elizabeth (Bulkeley), of Cambridge & Boston, MA, Hutchinson, Anne (Marbury), of Boston, MA, RI, & NY, Hutchinson, Katherine (Hamby), of Boston, MA, Ludlow, Roger, of Dorchester, MA; Windsor & Fairfield, CT, Mellowes, Martha (Bulkeley), of Charlestown, MA, Negus, Jane (Deighton) (Lugg), of Boston, MA, Palgrave, Dr. Richard, of Charlestown, MA, Pelham, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, MA, Pelham, Jemima (Waldegrave), of Cambridge, MA, Pole (or Poole), Elizabeth, of Taunton, MA, Pole (or Poole), William, of Dorchester & Taunton, MA, Pynchon, Amy (Wyllys/Willis), of Springfield, MA, Saltonstall, Muriel (Gurdon), of Ipswich, MA, Saltonstall, Richard, of Watertown & Ipswich, MA, Scott, Katherine (Marbury), of Massachusetts & RI, Spencer, Agnes (Harris), of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Taylor, James, Gent., of Boston & Lynn, MA, Throckmorton, John, of Salem, MA, Providence & Warwick, RI, & NJ, Torrey, [Rev.] Iver McKayEmigrant, bornKilmory, Bute, Scotland, Unsourced. 18. 13. 2. Rachel is the daughter of [private mother] [unknown confidence] This trail tells us that Edward III is the 15th great grandfather of Daniel. As are all of the people on this list , according to the relationship finder I share anywhere from 30 to 105 relationships with the people on the list. Thomas Ligon is profiled on Who Do You Think You Are when they were tracing the ancestors of Courtney Cox. 11. PS, is there another project related to Charlemagne? Join Geni to explore your genealogy and family history in the World's Largest Family Tree. Edward III (r. 1327-1377) | The Royal Family Edward III (r. 1327-1377) Edward III was 14 when he was crowned King and assumed government in his own right in 1330. He died in 1437, and the fine brass memorial he ordered to be made, which shows himself and Joan, is still extant.17 By 1500 many English earls and barons were descendants of Edward III, and so were many Iberian noble families. By 1600 almost the entire English gentry were his descendants. Mid-Atlantic Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Southern Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Governor George Popham of Popham/Sagadahoc Colony of Maine, Southern Atlantic Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent, Abell, Robert, of Weymouth and Rehoboth, Massachusetts I: 107, Allin, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury and Dedham, Massachusetts II: 412, II: 477, Allyn, Margaret (Wyatt), of Cambridge, Mass. Katherine is the daughter ofAgnes Bigod[unknownconfidence] Unsourced,I would split the line here as well; going backwards they might appear in a Scottish source. 9. I also connect to this tree (which is why I was up on Mary Fienes!) Lora and Edward III are third cousins 21 times removed. George is the son ofAnne (Wyatt) Stubblefield[unknownconfidence] Samuel, of Hull and Weymouth, MA, Treworgy, Penelope (Spencer), of ME, MA, and Newfoundland, Tyng, Elizabeth (Coytemore), of Boston, MA, Whiting, Elizabeth (St. John), of Lynn, MA, Whittingham, Elizabeth (Bulkeley), of Cambridge and Boston, MA, Williams, Frances (Deighton), of Taunton, MA, Wilson, Elizabeth (Mansfield), of Boston, MA. This trail tells us that Edward III is the 19th great grandfather of Patricia. Create a list of proven gateway ancestors as a tool for future research. Among his documented descendants are presidents (George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Zachary Taylor, both Roosevelts), authors (Jane Nicholas later sued for a child's share of Thomas's estate, which he could have done as a stepson, but not as a son-in-law. Thanks for taking a look at this one, as well! 12. Patricia is the daughter of Bruce Hawkins Jr. [confident] . One of those relationships is a possible direct relationship to Edward I. I did find some grandfathers I didn't know about. But when a TV show focuses on such a link to a monarch, she has to "try not to shout at the telly" about the huge number of other less glamorous ancestors who are being ignored on the way. 11. Michael is the son of Lucy (Buckton) Heneage 14. I will be adding the complete list from RD600 2008 edition on this page as well soon. 15. "I don't get my identity by thinking that back in 1630 there was a guy called Thomas Churchill who's my ancestor. of William Courtney, de jure 3rd Earl of Devon not Gertrude Courtney. Daniel is the son of Iver McKay [uncertain] WebBenjamin Greene III (1764-) Elizabeth Greene (1766-) Hannah Greene (1768-1850) Lucretia Greene (1771-1851) Sarah Greene (1773-) Anne Greene (1774-) H Rebecca Hamblin (1694-1750) Ruth Haynes (1639-) Sheriff Daniel Hubbard (1706-1741) Russell Hubbard (1732-) Lucretia Hubbard (1734-) Daniel Hubbard, Jr. (1736-) Elizabeth Hubbard (1738-1808) Edward IV of England (1442-1483) 2. Webdescendants ancestors Four or more generations of descendants of Edward IV of England (1442-1483) if they are properly linked: 1. Michael is the son ofJohn Andrew Woods[unknownconfidence] 16. I think there is a legitimate issue with the connection between Francois de Joyeuse and Robert de Joyeuse. Hi Joe, This has been a fascinating thread! 14. Colin is the son of Archibald (Campbell) fourth Earl of Argyll [unknown confidence] As you probably know, Col Hansen breaks the line in his article, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence both ways. Sarah is the daughter ofBridgett (Fitts) Window[confident] The source I added above also explains a whole lot about the names and the confusion about them, some were translated and written in Dutch or Dutchified , so for someit's reallyhard to recognize they were the correct ones, sometimes theywere registeredwith just their patronymics, and so on so it's quite a puzzle . Mary is the daughter ofThomas Southard Jr.[unknownconfidence] 11. Alice is the daughter ofAnne Harris[unknownconfidence] 18. Barbara Aubrey, John Barclay, John Bevan, Essex Beville, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Elizabeth Bosvile, Mary Bourchier, George, Giles & Robert Brent, Stephen Bull, Charles Calvert, Edward Carleton, St. Leger Codd, Elizabeth & Thomas Coytemore, William Crymes, Humphrey Davie, Frances, Jane & Katherine Deighton, Edward Digges, Robert Drake, Rowland Ellis, John Fenwick, John Fisher, Henry Fleete, Edward Foliot, Muriel Gurdon, Elizabeth & John Harleston, Warham Horsmanden, Patrick Houston, Anne Humphrey, Mary Launce, Hannah, Samuel & Sarah Levis, Thomas Ligon, Nathaniel Littleton, Thomas Lloyd, Agnes Mackworth, Oliver Manwaring, Anne Mauleverer, Richard More, Joseph & Mary Need, John and Margaret Nelson, Philip & Thomas Nelson, Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge, Herbert Pelham, Robert Peyton, William & Elizabeth Pole, Henry & William Randolph, George Reade, William Rodney, Thomas Rudyard, Katherine Saint Leger, Richard Saltonstall, William Skepper, Mary Johanna Somerset, Samuel & William Torrey, Margaret Touteville, John West, Hawte Wyatt. So now youre reading peer reviewed journals to learn about your ancestors in England mostly yeoman, husbandman, minor clerics and various tradesmen. (Round 3). The Baronial Order of Magna Charta (BOMC) keeps its own list of Gateway ancestors that descend from the barons who forced King John of England to sign the document at Runnymede on 15 Jun 1215. "Hugh Harry, Quaker Immigrant to Pennsylvania: His Purported Royal Descent", in The American Genealogist, vol. 11. Prof King, a presenter on BBC Two's DNA Family Secrets, says that it's often not understood how much family trees are likely to overlap when you go back so many generations. James Stewart, Duke of Rothesay (1507-1508) 11. John is the son ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] Joan is the daughter ofJohn Beaufort KG[unknownconfidence] For completeness I think John Lightfoot-92 and his brother Philip Lightfoot-255 have a line in the latest Richardson books, which I haven't seen. 1. 9. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ide/120/mb.ashx My husband, [[Strutt-262|David Strutt]] is a direct descendant of Edward III, Plantagenet-70. Lineage societies maintain their own lists based on accepted membership applications. Sir Richard and 1da. 10. Identify and correct problem areas in wikitree. John is the son ofJoan Janet Stewart[unknownconfidence] Well, Lumpkin-1 may need more sourcing; there's a comment: This poor woman had a child when she was 49 years old and three when she was 59. 3. This list currently is 70 individuals representing 55 different families. Anne is the daughter ofRalph (Eure) de Eure[unknownconfidence] Anna, please post your line to the new G2G question: Edward III Project: Gateway Ancestors - do you have one? (Baltimore, 1999), Abell, Robert, of Weymouth & Rehoboth, MA, Allin, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury and Dedham, MA, Baldwin, Elizabeth (Alsop), of Milford, CT, Bolles, Joseph, of Winter Harbor & Wells, ME, Browne, Nathaniel, of Hartford & Middletown, CT, & Springfield, MA, Bruen, Obadiah, of Marshfield & Gloucester, MA, & New London, CT, Bulkeley, Grace (Chetwode), of Concord, MA, Burrough, Nathaniel, of Calvert Co., MD, & Roxbury, MA, Chauncy, [Rev.] Dorothy is the daughter ofMary (Fiennes) Fiens[unknownconfidence] Andrew is the son of Katherine Gordon [unknown confidence], 11. and heiress named Janet who m. (1) Lachlan Mackintosh of Dunachtan and (2) James Ogilvy of Cardell, with her lands being discharged to her half-brother Sir Robert of Glen (not in WT). John is the son ofElizabeth (Touchet) Sydenham[unknownconfidence] This trail tells us that Edward III is the18th great grandfatherof Kristina. 9. 17. https://archive.org/stream/visitationsofess13metc#page/59/, There's also said to be a Percy pedigree by Vincent the herald which credits Thomas Percy and Eleanor Harbottle with 3 daughters. 7. I hope to get to all of them. WebTheir lineage can be traced back to the Saxons, Scottish (Stuart dynasty), Welsh (Tudor dynasty), Irish, Germans (Hanover and Windsor), French (Norman and Angevin), Russians, Franks and perhaps even Byzantines. Sarah is the daughter ofSarah Jane (Colby) Flanders[unknownconfidence] Anne is the daughter ofWilliam Harris II[unknownconfidence] Philippa Plantagenet, (5th) Countess of Ulster = Edmund MORTIMER. [unknown confidence] Henry is the son of Edmund Beaufort KG [unknown confidence] This line is so jumbled I am having a hard time figuring out where to begin (typical of Scottish pedigrees). WebDescendants of the Illegitimate Sons and Daughters of the Kings of Britain There were often just as many (and sometimes more) illegitimate royal offspring than legitimate ones. 12. 14. 10. 4. But it was his sister Janet(c.1480c.1544)according to Scots Peerage v.2. WebHere is a Native American family's descent from Edward III: Edward III = Philippa of Hainault. Roland's guide to surviving medieval genealogy in the Internet age. John is the son ofThomas Southworth[unknownconfidence] Added: The PGM immigrant descendants (i.e. 5. Prince Lionel of Antwerp =1 Elizabeth de BURGH (4th) Countess of Ulster. 2nd ed., (Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2011), Richardson, Douglas. http://news.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2013-08/1375902884. Video, The secret mine that hid the Nazis' stolen treasure, MasterChef Australia host Jock Zonfrillo dies, UK chip giant Arm files for blockbuster share sale, Adidas sued by investors over Kanye West deal, US bank makes last ditch bid to find rescuer, US principal visits David sculpture after nudity row, Pope urges Hungarians to 'open doors' to migrants. "We're reliant on the survival of records," she says. Being able to navigate a path back to an identifiable medieval relative often depends on finding a "gateway ancestor", says Else Churchill, a genealogist at the Society of Genealogists in London. I had cause to look at the book in which the Mary Fienes claim was made. 23. En route to London to answer for his behavior he killed an inkeeper and wounded his wife, then committed suicide. Use theRelationship Finderto find if you have a connection toEdward III, king of England(Plantagenet-70). Josiah Quinn Crowninshield Bradlee (1982-) 8. Charles is the son of Robert Rigg [confident] Some of the other children who are currently attributed to those parents in WikiTree may also be undocumented gateways who still need to be disconnected. 25. Richardson, Douglas. You start to read about your ancestors on Wikipedia. Born 23 Mar 1732 in Ivy Mills, Concord Township, Delaware, Pennsylvania. William is the son ofWilliam Knox[unknownconfidence] One may experience denial, bargaining, melancholy and even anger. Bea Wijma, the profile manager on these two, is a very good researcher who works from the primary records of Leiden. 23. 11. But being a Scot and Edward I being known as the Hammer of the Scots, I wasn't absolutely over the moon.". I disconnected Jane (Reed) Niles from the parents she was attached to, so the first questionable line I posted above is now cut off. Unfortunately countless times in the past people would go from embellishing their family to outright publishing connections that were fantasy. Katherine is the daughter of John Peck Esquire WebAncestor charts showing the family relationships of Edward III, King of England (13121377) to other famous people. 9. WebEdward, the Black Prince (15 June 1330 8 June 1376), Duke of Cornwall, Prince of Wales. 12. I hope the folks who are familiar with the records will make the appropriate corrections in the Lake lineage -- and help reduce our inventory of spurious royal ancestries. However, only 387 of these include colonial immigrants who left progeny. John is the son ofMary (Sydenham) Fitz[unknownconfidence] Thomas lost his parents who had a son Thomas who was not born in Cheshire, married someone else and never emigrated. Fresh from Scotland. Richardson doesn't mention any kids, though he omits to say "They had no issue". 19. It sounds like there are errors in this line but I really don't know how to correct it. It didn't change her sense of family relationships, and it also didn't dampen her enthusiasm for the detective work of genealogy. Because I match bigod. Wiliam is the son of Samuel Adam (McKay) McCoy [unknown confidence] 16. Maximillian Cornelius Beard (1864-1924) 4. I have done much to confirm each link in the chain. Steve is the son of [private mother] [confident] 18. GARDs short for Gateway Ancestors of Royal Descent and GANDs Gateway Ancestors of Noble descent have been the subject of intense academic research. Thomas is the son ofHenry Algernon Percy KG, KB[unknownconfidence] WebUntil 1603, England and Scotland had separate monarchies, although royals of the two kingdoms frequently intermarried. 9. (PS doesn't work, she'd have been born too late to have her descendants. 3. New gateway ancestors: The Duncanson sisters of New Netherland? John is the son of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG [unknown confidence] Francois says in a 1733 notarial act that he is the son of Robert de Joyeuse, but offers no proof of it. I have not had a chance to review them. Joan is the daughter ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] 22. Thomas is the son ofHelen (Langton) Southworth[unknownconfidence] According to the research, Markle, a Los Angeles-born American citizen, is a 24th generation descendant of King Edward III. That seems reasonable to me, no one in the family ever thought of a royal connection! 1600s Virginia is making me crazy. The problems tend to start back in the old countries. Joan is the daughter of Matilda (Clifford) Sutton The secret mine that hid the Nazis' stolen treasure. 2. I have the same connection to all of the surety barons whose line hasnt died out. 10. William is the son ofMary (Wilson) Danforth[unknownconfidence] 8. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England [confident] This corrects the line originally posted. 17. Alleged Royal Ancestry of Edward Southworth, Space:Gateway_Descendants_from_Edward_III, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carolingian-77, https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Project:Edward_III_descents_past_gen_5, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:A_table_of_descendants_of_Edward_III_-_002, https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Project:Edward_III_descents_past_gen_5#King_Henry_IV_table, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:A_table_of_descendants_of_Edward_III, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Southard-61, : Leyden Documents Relating to the Pilgrim Fahter. Duncan is the son of Patrick Mckie [unknown confidence] Includes citations for all sources. 16. Edmund Berkeley (1823-1915) 5. 12. Conquest is the son ofEdward Wyatt[unknownconfidence] Frances Deighton is the gateway ancestor. Agnes is the daughter ofJohn Douglas[unknownconfidence] Australian, South African, European, etc.)? Edward is the son of John Sutton [unknown confidence] 10. 2. Humphrey is the son ofEleanor (Holand) Touchet[unknownconfidence] Joan is the daughter ofJohn Beaufort KG[unknownconfidence] Good to know. 12. Apparently a violent drunk, he terrorized the neighboring town of Tavistock for a number of years. Once you go even further back, a few thousand years or so, the genetics professor says there are even bigger patterns of common ancestry, not just within Britain, but shared between people living in different countries and continents. And to illustrate the point, he's also another descendant of Edward I. I'll keep looking. John, of Boston, Massachusetts IV: 299, Palgrave,[Dr. Richard, of Charlestown, Massachusetts I: 512, Palmes, Anne (Humphrey), of Swansea, Massachusetts V: 358, Pelham, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, Massachusetts I: 444; III: 224; V: 357, Pelham, Herbert, of Cambridge, Massachusetts I: 444; III: 224; V: 357, Pelham, Jemima (Waldegrave), of Cambridge, Massachusetts II: 12; V: 355, Pole (or Poole), Elizabeth, of Taunton, Massachusetts V: 60, Pole (or Poole), Jane (Greene), of Dorchester and Taunton, Massachusetts III: 11; V: 60, Pole (or Poole), William, of Dorchester and Taunton, Massachusetts V: 60, Pynchon, Amy (Wyllys), of Springfield, Massachusetts V: 432, Raynsford, Edward, of Boston, Massachusetts IV: 463, Saltonstall, Elizabeth (West), of Watertown, Massachusetts IV: 551; V: 357, Saltonstall, Muriel (Gurdon), of Ipswich, Massachusetts Ill: 183; IV: 551, Saltonstall, Sir Richard, Knt., of Watertown, Massachusetts IV:551, Scott, Katherine (Marbury), of Massachusetts and Rhode Island II: 147, Shepard, Margaret (Touteville), of Massachusetts II: 683, Sherman, Mary (Launce), of Watertown, Massachusetts III: 547, Skepper, Rev.
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