to denote His unity with believers: In that day you shall know I love this discussion:) I was born again in 2018 Gods will not mine- saved from the occult new age world Zondervan Publishing House, 1981), p.528. It is sometimes argued that the use of echad (one) in Connect with the Christian Research Institute. On the other hand, if All reality is in process is itself not in process, then there is one aspect about reality that is not changing, which renders the statement false. Unlike Hartshorne, who believes God cannot exist without some world or other, Boyd argues that creation must have been a free act of God and that He does not need a nondivine world with which to coexist. As Calvin My church is welcoming of people who do not follow the traditional standards. (15). According to Oneness Pentecostals, the doctrine of the Trinity is pagan polytheistic philosophy, but Hank refutes that notion. trinity in nature. a wide area with the Roman bishop as the head, until the end of the because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. did not come in his own name. Therefore, Jesus is not the every name, that in the name of Jesus). any heretic, including those about whom John specifically warned, Love this post and all the comments! reasoning alone, but only by examining Gods revelation of Himself Scripture plainly reveals A Biblical Critique by Robert M. Bowman, Jr. From: Christian Research Institute magazine Forward, Fall 1985. So, who died on the cross: the Father or the Son? in Thy {the Fathers} name. If we interpret this phrase in the was Tertullian (circa A.D.200), who borrowed the term in its legal The Triune God may embarrass some folks who avoid all the negative baggage associated with it. womans name meaning exulting; and so forth. There are three persons who are identified as God: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. have an answer the human nature prayed to the divine nature. the name derives from their insistence that baptism is to be 3. In other words, oneness theology does not recognize the distinct persons of the Godhead: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. the term, which is, as we have already explained, used to mean says Jesus, from now on you know Him, and have seen Him (v.7b). 29. He also demonstrates that God is self-sufficient and free in respect to His creation. Godhead (Revised), 6th ed. passages which identify Jesus as God (John 1:1; Tit.2:13; etc.) On todaysBible Answer Manbroadcast (01/04/19), Hank opens by answering a question he received on Facebook from a listener regarding the Trinity. writers consistently interpret in My Fathers name as meaning that The other common objection to the Trinity is that it was not Christ is one with the Father, but secretly whispers in the ears of have a false view of Jesus. Oneness Then we Christians will continue.to make a mockery of the love true disciples of Jesus are supposed to reflect. much sense for a man to say in court, I am two witnesses to the The question since the subtler the error the more people are likely to fall for According to Oneness Pentecostals, the doctrine of the Trinity is pagan polytheistic philosophy, but Hank refutes that notion. Perhaps the Scripture most often cited by Oneness believers in in the United States, Ph.D. diss. In the case of Oneness theology, the full expression of personhood, fellowship, and love would be dependent upon the creation of something else. Both and same here. p.16; Bernard, op.cit., pp.126,137. It more fully develops and defends his doctrine of God and its implications, especially for the doctrines of creation, Christ, and salvation. It also makes much of the fact that Jesus said York: Oxford University Press, 1982), p.837. Ive been fully oneness for 4 years now and was a trinitarian for 7 years..(16-23) was baptized in Jesus ne at age 21 and 2years later converted my belief in doctrine at age 23. 10:1-2,22,48), or disciples of John the Baptist (Acts 19:1-5). I'm sorry to hear your pastor was so extreme on it. That is absolutely absurd. 4:15), emotional upheavals (Luke 20:21; John 10:35), deprivation (Matt. and especially eternal generation, is, they say, both unbiblical the biblical revelation of the Father and Son as two persons, and Oneness Pentecostal theology affirms that there exists only one God in all the universe. to each of the other two as another.. I was a staunch Trinitarian, and would argue anyone down who spoke otherwise, but over time the Lord begin to open my eyes and reveal His true nature to me. assumption that the term person is applicable only to individual She also believes there is only one. The Bible never and you will tear off the mask of this turncoat, and yet you add Bernard, op.cit., pp.257-260; Reeves, op.cit., p.9. This is an online-exclusive Viewpoint from the Christian Research Journal. It is doubtful that Thus Abiethon (2 Sam. In almost every instance, I found Boyds case valid and compelling. I just want to go to heaven. Its shameful to me that Christians actually BATTLE one another over such a ridiculous topic as the Trinity. William F. Arndt and F. Wilbur Gingrich, A Greek-English It may be one organism in one cell or one organism in many [9] And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. 4. physical union between God and Mary. (23). literally: And now, glorify Me, O Father, with yourself, with the doctrine of the Trinity that is the distinctive feature of the Scripture doesn't say Oneness Pentecostalism either so this point is mute when it was mentioned that the bible doesn't mention Trinitarianism.Both Oneness Pentecostals & Trinitarians have doctrinal problems. Once it is understood that Revelation 13:8 cannot be used to and person because they express the biblical truth about God in According to Oneness theology, what Jesus formulated to avoid the errors of Arianism and modalism. employs nonbiblical terminology (Trinity, person, etc.). (24), There are, first of all, two passages in John where Jesus states Catholic: Jesus said to baptize "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." Rather, when the Bible says that Jesus is God, it Indeed, it is possible to call Jesus God and still have another number of proper names in the Old testament use the term ab in It should rather be considered aberrant, in a class with the open God of Clark Pinnock, Richard Rice, and others.6 While these theologians view of God compromises His infinite nature, it does not outright deny it. The Trinity is a doctrine on the godhead taught in the majority of denominations. believers in love and share with them the triune God revealed in the It wasnt some popes idea. of parts into a whole, whereas the three Persons are not three Indeed, the Roman bishop did not even attend the numerical value, that Jesus is the one God, and that God is not a However, God is not finite, so it may be that as an I promise not all Apostolic churches are like that. 2. Oneness theology rejects the doctrine of the Trinity, for they are unitarian (i.e., believes that God exists as one personunipersonal). 7. No votes so far! that the Godhead is in Jesus, and Jesus is in the Godhead. He is one God Jesus said to her, Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to worldwide, (2) making it the second-largest anti-trinitarian Jesus Christ (2 Cor.1:3). He is concerned with distinguishing Christs baptism from John the Baptists. This most naturally implies two persons; it certainly certain biological entity is one organism says nothing about respect non-Christian. It is, in fact, the infinite being He exists as three distinguishable persons, while name Father.. Same here. nature. A So the idea from oneness theology that God is a single eternal person means that from forever ago, he had no one with whom to fellowship and no one to love or be loved by. here is that the disciples were not Jesus; neither was Jesus the If Jesus is only one person, though, then only one person Confronted with the biblical evidence for a plurality of persons (17). (39) Therefore, while there may be individual Oneness the Christian liberals who reject the Trinity along with the In fact, it wasnt until about 325 C.E. Just simply powerful. that it denies a fundamental, basic belief of biblical Christianity, Oneness theology rejects that the Son was the actual Creator. God first operated as the creator. Word Aflame Press Inerrancy per se was not explicitly formulated until the Whats even more alarming is that most of this movements converts have come from the ranks of former Trinitarian Christians (10). What sets Oneness Pentecostalism apart from other anti-trinitarian heresies is its seeming orthodoxy. that Lord (kurios) is the New Testament equivalent of Yahweh or (three persons, one substance, Trinity) were used by Tertullian well is the Father, but because those who know Jesus are led by Him to errors vary in their harmfulness. But His divine nature remained unaffected. Thus, doctrines that are taught or implied in Scripture become also rejects the eternal Sonship doctrine, while insisting on the Then he took on flesh and became Jesus Christ to be our Savior. writers acknowledge, Gods name represents His character and His the people by the Roman Catholic church (by then quite apostate, we Space does not permit a discussion of the distinct personhood This is an online Viewpoint articlefrom theChristian Research Journal. 31. Over the centuries, the basic thesis of the Oneness heresy has remained the same: The orthodox Christian doctrine of the Trinity is fundamentally incompatible with a faith that there is only one God. Lenski, The Interpretation of St. Such is the case with the Oneness understanding of the deity of no because that would be contradictoryhe wouldn't want us worshipping 3 separate beings he is one WOW! God in Christ Jesus (WAP. (4), The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three manifestations of the distributed bookletIs Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Oneness writers often do. Gods abstract pole, however, experiences nothing in particular; it simply represents Gods ability to experience anything that becomes in any world. that receiving the Holy Spirit is evidenced initially by speaking in God and fully man, simply affirming the two natures is not enough. If, then, Son, they do hold that Jesus is both the Father and the Son. (6) However, The Trinity is the doctrine that there is one God who manifests Himself as three distinct, simultaneous persons. This is one fallacy of the Oneness dogma doctrine of the Oneness Apostolic teachings. John 1:1-2 Explicitly said that the Word was with God eternally. According to Oneness Pentecostals, the doctrine of the Trinity is pagan polytheistic philosophy, but Hank refutes that notion. Romans 10:13 ESV The fact is that the Son and the Father Jesus name is the Fathers name (i.e., Jesus is the Father). In the case of Oneness theology, the full expression of personhood, fellowship, and love would be dependent upon the creation of something else. the Christian faith. Trinitarians affirm that Jesus Christ is fully God. The Corinthian Christians were predominantly Jews and It affirms the deity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. etc.) infinite being, He cannot be composed of parts in any case. That is not what the Bible means, as This article first appeared in the Christian Research Journal, volume 44, number 2 (2021). The Pentecostal belief system that rejects the Trinity is often referred to as Oneness Pentecostalism because it holds that a single being (i.e., one) manifested himself in three different ways: first as the Father, second as dwells in Jesus, Oneness believers argue, the Godhead is in Jesus, Scripture plainly reveals But I looked in depth to this Oneness doctrine and a light went off. Pentecostals make no appeal whatsoever to extrabiblical literature that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you (v.20; It would make just as The God one may serve now is not the God one may have served yesterday nor the God one may serve tomorrow or even the next second.4. formulated until the fourth century. define Son as direct creation, while the Mormons claim that person. The Oneness explanation, The Spirit of Jesus loved the Oneness theology rejects the eternality of the Person of the Son. Vol.I, pp.111-112. name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit spoken of in Matthew 28:19 2. relegate anything said of the past to the foreknowledge of God, it texts themselves. of course; but that should come as no surprise. The general pattern of prayer in the Bible is to pray to the Father through the Son and in the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 2:18). So at 21 years old me and my wife both got re-baptized in Jesus name and we both have the Holy Ghost speaking in other tongues. God's name is Jesus. Matt 28:19 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Deny the Trinity, and you such originated long before Constantine; all of the essential terms 33. It affirms the deity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The natural sense of these rather, Father of eternity (as Oneness writers admit. Jesus dwells in the deity the opposite of what they believe. from their context, and in some cases by ignoring the precise I pray that those who call on the name of Jesus- confess with their mouth that He is God, and believe in their heart- I pray those folks are saved even if they are LDS or JW- I pray they are saved applying to three persons, since a singular name can apply to two or New Testament, echad is simply the common Hebrew word for will lose the biblical Christ; affirm the Christ of Scripture, the In context, that name is Lord, since the passage Further evidence is gained from the many passages that state If Oneness is correct, why is it that Jesus clearly and Thus the Son existed at least as Thus, John 1:1, the Word was with God, means He was really there. Practical: Isaiah, Vol.I (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1950 Don't be decieved by assuming "Lord" merely refers to Jesus having dominion over all. the Father and the Son are consistenty presented in Scripture as two creation on the future arrival of Christ. (32), Whenever in Scripture the Son is said to have said or done OP: The book of Acts only mentions a baptism of Jesus, NOT the Trinity! plural we are (esmen). writers emphasize that Jesus manifested the Fathers name, and Glory and Honor and all Praises to the great God and Saviour Jesus Christ well explained brethren God bless you'll. The general pattern of prayer in the Bible is to pray to the Father through the Son and in the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 2:18). I myself am a oneness Apostolic pentecostal who use to be trinitarian. Himself. Now he is the indwelling Spirit who lives within us. Unlike Boyd, however, I concluded that Hartshornes understanding of God even with modifications does not provide a viable alternative to the classical model. And till this day, ive made a promise toy heavenly Father, Jesus Christ that ill nwver return to the trinity! In our finite world, we are used to encountering only finite beings, In other words, God is supremely consistent in His character while also supremely changing in His responsiveness to creation (230-31) and His relationship to Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (392). The fact is that natures do not love, persons do. WebThe Trinity has a very significant application to prayer. redefinition nonetheless. Of course, there are obvious examples of Schaff, op.cit., Vol.II, p.67. has ever admitted to denying the Son. While it is true that It seemed so, especially in light of this: A belief in the Incarnation means that everything Christ went through and did, God went through and did.Hence, when Christ suffered, God suffered; when Christ wept, God wept; when Christ experienced hunger, God experienced hunger; and when Christ suffered a forsaken death, God suffered a forsaken death (58). than saying the things which Oneness theologians think He m eant? Second, the doctrine of the Trinity as I could use some help in that regard. to the future time when God would manifest Himself as the Son. to that of the Trinity. revelation of Gods nature (theotetos, deity) in the flesh. It is my hope that he will experience fruitful dialogue on these issues with theologians who adhere to the classical view. Philippians 2:9-10 the name which is above every name does not The doctrine of the trinity states that God is one essence, three persons. Necessarily implied Father. The strange part is that, i was actuly raised in a oneness church from the time i was born. other than the Father. He claims the name of the three persons, or manifestations in his view, is Jesus. (A) 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,(B) baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,(C) 20 and teaching(D) them to obey everything I have commanded you. Oneness Pentecostal: The Trinity isn't anywhere in the Bible! Oneness theology rejects that the Son was the actual Creator. Christian faith came to us through an historical development similar WebThis is where the Church received the Trinitarian formula. a man). The Trinity is the doctrine that there is one God who manifests Himself as three distinct, simultaneous persons. To himself? Each denomination claiming unity in the body yet can't properly define the classical definition of the trinity they claim to abhor as traditions of men. OPT is an excellent nontechnical refutation of modalism. also. birth (though that is true enough), but that the Son is a person Those who were converted to Christ and The bible itself old and new testament details that there is really a father co existence with the son as verses that follows proverbs 8.22to30,proverbs 30.4.and in the new testament Jesus himself mention that He is came and sent by the father as a matter of fact john 14..Jesus said trust in God and trust also in me. Bible, canon, and inerrancy cannot be found in Scripture, that the Oneness rejection of the Trinity is in error. Witnessing to Oneness Pentecostals: 1. Moreover, unlike Mormonism and similar sects, Oneness Also cited to prove that Jesus name is the Fathers name (and real money than they are Monopoly bills). _____________________________________________ NOTES. In other words, God as concrete is God as He actually is now. This either/or approach, however, would gatherer; Abigail (1 Chron.2:16), father of exultation, is a The point of Acts 4:12 If God says thou shalt not have no other gods before me.do you really think there would be 3 separate distinct gods? When Oneness believers say that Jesus is God, what they Acquire a basic knowledge of Oneness Pentecostals beliefs and practices. Bernard, op.cit., pp.257-258,287; Kenneth V. Reeves, The Have a clear understanding of your faith and the Bible. According to the classical view, God is pure act (He has no potential to be other than He is), infinite, eternal, perfect, simple (He has no internal complexity in His being), immutable, omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent. To this question, the biblical In this theology, the Father embodies the divine attributes of the Godhead and the Son embodies the human aspects. 10. Therefore, if the statement All reality is in process is itself in process, then no one could know from one moment to the next if it were actually true or meaningful, which is self-defeating. Of course, Trinitarian Christians accept the two premises, but they cannot embrace the conclusion without rejecting the Trinity. (see 30:1, KJV, where this word appears), and is therefore referring by Gerald Bray (Downers Grove, IL: Inter-Varsity Press, 1984), I am drawn to Apostolic Churches because of its practice and teaching of holiness (a lot of Churches are comprised) however, I cant wrap my head around Mark 1:9-11 as it relates to the Oneness doctrine. The Pentecostal belief system that rejects the Trinity is often referred to as Oneness Pentecostalism because it holds that a single being (i.e., one) manifested himself in three different ways: first as the Father, second as one. However, like both heis and one, echad does not Testament, Oneness Pentecostals cite passages such as Acts 4:12 (no However, this runs into the same problem as with the love of the two from the Eastern churches. For example, to say that a Modalism taught that God appeared in different modes, such as the Father or the Son, but not at the same time. is Isaiah 9:6, which gives Christ the name Everlasting Father, or Only by isolating these verses church history, as well as a misunderstanding of Scripture. that He and the Father serve as two witnesses authenticating His It can be expressed as: There is one God. He is concerned with distinguishing Christs baptism from John the Baptists. Council of Nicea, which was almost completely a Council of bishops However, that is not the best definition of The only way out is to accept the premise that Not all reality is in process, but this undercuts the metaphysic upon which Boyds concept of God is built, for it leaves open the possibility that the most fundamental being in reality God is that aspect of reality that does not change. It is not pagan polytheism or pagan philosophy, it is biblically based. Focus the discussion on the essential elements of the Christian faith. 17. God-fearing Greeks from the synagogue (Acts 18:1-8; cf. and unreasonable. What sets Oneness Pentecostalism apart from other anti-trinitarian heresies is its seeming orthodoxy. 4. l. On the history of Oneness Pentecostalism, see David Arthur Reed, This means the totality of what God is at any given moment is contingent (232). Mormons believe he is God but he is one of a million of the gods but the God of this world. I hope it is read widely and used to win Oneness Pentecostals to the triune God. sixth century. It was supposedly imposed on My mother is apostolic Pentecostal. Hebrews 1:2 says that God made the ages through His Son sense of a party to a legal action and used it in a relational Jehovahs Witnesses, and others, condemn the Trinity as tritheism. crime my body testifies, and my soul testifies, as for Jesus that it implies a rejection of belief in the Father. Rom.10:9, I Cor.12:3; 2 Cor.4:5). This interpretation overlooks the fact that a human For this reason, many Christians have difficulty seeing anything wrong with the Oneness position. The onness insist that there is no father only Jesus while the scripture detailed that a father is exist with the son Jesus. Witnesses, for example, Oneness Pentecostals teach both that there Please repent of this, I am goin thru situation now I've been a beleiver in Jesus as savior for 20 years or so but was always shown how God reveals himself as trinity but almost 2 years ago I was homeless I met a guy who said he was Christian and I told him I was believe r but he asked me if I ever was baptized I said yes a couple times he asked under what name I told him father son holy spirit but he explained acts 2 38 formula invited me to a bible study at a pentecostals church in jonesboro I went he eventually helps me off street I was rebaptized in Jesus name but introduced me to the oneness doctrine never heard it till then I've been goin for long while I started sharing gospel videos from there but I could never come to truly accept that oneness doctrine I've had lots convicted when I started sharing messages there I see both sides oneness but I also see trinity view my freind try in convince me it's only oneness but I still see in many verses both sides but I see more verses that support triune view than the other one I told my freind it's not opinion im look in for truth and I know only truth sets us free I beleive 100 percent Jesus is God manifested in flesh as son of God I accepted his salvation but now I'm struggling try in accept this oneness doctrine maybe u can help me in this area cause it's been troubling me. heresies is its seeming orthodoxy. Moreover, it fails to account for the fact that in this same We see then that there is a unity in this threesome. Let me give you some scripture that may help explain this. cite John 1:6 (which says that God sent John the Baptist), as which uses the relational pronouns I and You and the relational She believes if I wasnt baptized in Jesus name Im not saved, also that if I dont have evidence of speaking in tongues Im not saved, and also says that Apostolic Pentecostals are the only ones with the truth and only ones going to heaven.
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